Hatsan Mod 125 Sniper Vortex QE

Also Hawk optics they cost more but worth it .Try a model that sports a etched glass reticle instead of wire .

Look at the leaoers/UTG line of scopes. Fully warrantied and a good value.

Roughly the same give or take .

It is a break barrel one shot at a time , no Co2 or no other power source .

Correct it is a magnum springer in every scents of the word .

51Lbs is correct

Send it back...it's defective.

You have something very wrong with your rifle. Send it back to the dealer. These rifles have extreme power.

Is it a spiral bore

My 125 .177 Sniper id s bit picky on the pellet choice and the sound it emits when fired--the quietest is from Daisy .177 wad cutters and the loudest is with Benjamin .177 hallow points it sounds just like a .22 LR going off-- my 125 .22cal Vortex Sniper is just plain quiet no matter what pellets I put threw her-- but it really likes Benjamin Premium both domed and hallow points ---no matter which .177 or.22 you will need a good set of rings and a good scope to bring out the best the rifle has to offer--I hope this helped-if you have any other questions don't hesitate to ask---RUCK IT UP--SUCK IT UP AND RANGER UP--RANGERS LEAD THE WAY---ICEMAN

I own the Hatsan 125 Sniper Vortex. The cocking force on the Vortex piston version is 33 lbs. The Springer version approaches 50lbs cocking force. The Vortex has a smooth cocking stroke with no grinding sounds as some Springers have. The huge sound modulator makes a great handle for cocking this gun. With that said, this is a very powerful air rifle. I have the. 22 caliber version and it shoots 18 grain pellets over 950 ft per sec. Hatson uses lead pellets for their specifications not the PBA alloy pellets that a lot of manufacturers use to inflate their specs. It is a large, heavy, beautiful, hard hitting rifle. The Vortex piston can be left cocked for long periods of time without concern for wear or damage. This is an advantage over the Springer version which can not be left cocked. If cocked, you need to fire off the round soon. German Steel Two stage match grade trigger great stock, theres a lot to like. The Optima 3x32 scope is not up to par with the rifle. I would suggest Hatsan trash the useless bipod and provide a better 3x9x40 Scope. I suggest a Leapers scope on this rifle. It's a beast. Long & heavy at about 10 pounds with the scope installed. But, it is dead accurate out to 60 yards, maybe more with a better shooter than me. It is powerful. Best use is for small game and pest hunting. If target shooting, your arm is going to get pretty tired after 30-40 shots. Bottom line......I love it!

I cannot compare between the two versions of Hatsan 125 -spring powered vs. gas piston- beacuse I only own the second type. But compared to other break barrel, spring piston rifles I use, I would say that 1) Hatsan 125 is among the heavier air rifles to cock, because it is a powerful one; 2) Gas piston rifles, even when heavy, are smoother to cock. And they feel less "twangy" upon firing them. I did no testing myself, but gas piston plants are reputed for lasting longer. Anyway, as said above, this is a very powerful rifle, at such a point that even powered by a gas piston, coking effort and fire vibration are high and shooting it, for my taste is not pleasent. This is a great rifle for hunting or target shooting with fair accuracy at disances as long as 55 yards Accuracy greatly depends on good shot execution: the gun issues a lot of vibration. If I had to choose I would go for the Gas Piston.

I found no way to tell the internal configuration of the stock from exterior inspection. As it houses the adjustable cheekpiece rods and the locking screws, it is hollow to tan extent at least. But if strength is the concern I would say it looks like a very sturdy synthetic stock. I have not smashed the rifle into anything, but from the normal shooting, after many a shot,, the rifle stands perfectly solid, even when its great piston power turns loose scope screws every now and then,

I would like to add some clarification to the previous answer to this question. The specification page states Nitro Piston, but that is incorrect. The Vortex Gas Piston is NOT the same as the Nitro Piston. The Vortex utilizes High Pressure Air where the Nitro Piston uses a nitrogen charge. Also, the Vortex piston is rebuildable and the end user can adjust the fill pressure to suit his or her needs. http://hatsan.bg/userfiles/productlargeimages/product_1833.jpg This is a picture of the Vortex Gas Piston from Hatsan.bg's website.

The Vortex is a nitro gas piston. It's Hatsans own version. For copyright reasons, they have to name them differently. There are other slight changes made to make them original. Umarex has the Reaxis, Gamo the IGT, etc.

The hood of my Toyota was held up by two gas struts, both of which failed (lost pressure). I replaced them with two gas struts made by two different manufacturers. Both of those failed (lost pressure). Failure rate for gas struts: 100% Survival rate for gas struts: 0% Now I use a wooden stick to hold up the hood. I've found that a wooden stick is much, much, much more trustworthy than a leaky gas strut. Some allege that in cold weather a spring powered rifle looses power but a gas-ram rifle doesn't. I don't believe that it is easier to compress a cold spring than it is to compress a warm spring. On the other hand, isn't it true that the pressure of a gas is reduced when the gas is cooled? If some springers have proven to be less powerful in cold, it may be because the owner was so foolish as to smear thick grease on the spring in order to "tune" the gun. (A gun is not a musical instrument; the owner shouldn't be concerned about how mellifluous and pleasing to the ear is the sound made by the gun.) That useless grease gets even more thick and stiff when it is cooled (reducing the power of the gun). Let's say you have two break-barrel pellet rifles with a cocking effort of 40 pounds; one has a steel spring, and the other has a leaky gas ram. Let's say that you store them uncocked and unused in a closet for 5 years and then pull them out to measure the cocking effort. During those years, the leaky gas ram was probably continually losing molecules of gas. However, the steel spring was not continually losing molecules of metal. Which of the two guns will have retained more of its strength? Air and nitrogen are cheaper than high quality steel, so certain gun makers want to maximize their profits at your expense by substituting leaky gas rams for steel springs. As I got older, I reached a point where I decided that my spring-powered Hatsan 125 was too powerful and too difficult to cock, so I deliberately left it cocked during the night while I slept in order to weaken the spring. When I tested it in the morning, the spring seemed to be just as strong as it had been, and it was just as difficult to cock the gun. It seems to me that there is no evidence that a leaky gas ram will last longer than a steel spring.

I think the spring piston is more powerful. I have three springers the 125 sniper in.25 caliber and .22 caliber also a striker.22 caliber. I changed the scopes on the 125s I can hit 75 to 100 yards consistently The striker I use open sights they are all really accurate. I never thought I would own one now I'm hooked. Thinking about a good pcp. I have enough rifles and shotguns. I enjoy the pellet rifles because I can shoot in my backyard to 40 yards.

Having both a vortex 125 sniper (.25) and a 125th (.22) spring version i get the feeling that the spring version is slightly more powerfull due to the extra cocking effort required.i seen a good review on youtube comparing the sniper vortex to the the sniper (spring),both in.22 cal and he calculated that the spring version delivered 2 or 3 more foot pound of energy.the vortex is more pleasureable to shoot for me due to less recoil.my next hatsan will be a spring powered sniper 125 or a 135 spring.i hear that the vortex piston can be made to work at a higher pressure.i tend to choose the rifle with more power.

There's a review that discusses it. It has the same power, but it'll be smoother cocking and less vibration/noise. The piston typically lasts MUCH longer than the spring and isn't affected by cold temps.

Anthony, This particular rifle should be back in stock in another week or so. Sincerely, The Airgun Depot Customer Care Team